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Nietzsche used to say that

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without music life would be a mistake.

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So it is important

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and I think we need to protect artists.

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Let me introduce myself.

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I'm Anggun.

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I'm Indonesian
and French.

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A singer songwriter.

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I’m an actress,

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as well as a mom and a wife.

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I started my career in Indonesia,
I was basically a child star.

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I made my first album at 9 and

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that was when I started writing songs,

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because I found out that

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there were not many songs
for children my age,

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and I was really eager
to grow older faster than anyone

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because I want to talk about love stories,

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about beautiful things in life

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but I couldn't because I was only 9.

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And then when I was
12 years old, I was produced

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by one of the most prominent
producers in Indonesia.

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And so with that album after that

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I made 5 or 6 more albums.

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I was very prolific.

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But there was something
not quite right in terms of

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rights for singers,
songwriters or musicians.

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All the songs that I've written
in my younger years,

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I've never seen a cent of it.

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No one actually cared
about our rights.

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And we didn't know much about it
either, to be really, really honest.

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My father was actually another case

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because he was a book writer.

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And that was the same.

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He lived his life
without owning anything.

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So something had
to change. And one of the...

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one of my ideas

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was I decided to have
my own record label.

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I wanted to produce myself.

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I produced other artists,

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and I thought I could make a difference

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but if you released an album,
you can be sure that the next two days

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you can find it somewhere,
you know, being sold on the street

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with copies and
there's nothing you can do.

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And that was one of my motivation
to go overseas

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and to expand my career,

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not only just because I've always dreamt

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to have an international career,

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but also I knew

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that as a singer, as an artist,

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I could make a proper
living with what I do,

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and I was 21 when I left
my country, going to Europe.

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When you write a song and
you put your heart and soul

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in writing something beautiful

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and something that is meaningful to you,

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and you only hope that it can
touch other people the same way,

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you rarely think about
the administration part.

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I live in France,

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so I'm a member
of La SACEM.

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So I know that whenever I write a song,

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I have to have it registered.

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That is one of the ABC.

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Like, you have to have your song

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or your craft, being already
recognized and protected.

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That is number one.

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And then you have
to somehow work the song.

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One of my songs, “Savior”,

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one day, I received a call from
my record label saying

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they're going to feature that

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on a movie, Transporter,
with Jason Statham, of course.

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And I thought it was, wow,

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this is going to be something.

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And we had to negotiate about
the terms and percentages,

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you know, like,
it's like everything it’s negotiation.

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But at the end of the day,
the numbers that we got

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from the sales of that album
was really astonishing.

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I mean, we were double
platinum in France, gold in Italy,

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in many countries in Europe and like
seven times platinum in Indonesia.

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So that is also thanks to a team,

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like the teamwork of people,
in the service of a song.

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And it’s really important

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that, especially for newcomers,

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you need to have legal advice

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from people who know about this.

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In countries like Indonesia,

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I know that they are making their best

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to make things happen,

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to communicate and to educate people,

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but the system is there, it’s already in place.

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It's not perfect yet
but they are doing it right now.

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So it is important.

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And, I think we need to protect artists.

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Because, again, without music

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life would be a mistake.